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Episode 401: More Proof Direct Recognition Loans are Terrible for Bank On Yourself®

May 9, 2025 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Is the policy correctly structured?
  • How about a case study?
  • Does the policy with the most cash value always win?
  • What is the difference between a direct recognition and a non-direct recognition whole life insurance policy loan?
  • What did the footnotes say?
  • What are some possible outcomes?
  • What happened to the dividends with an outstanding direct recognition loan balance?
  • What happens to the dividends with an outstanding non-direct recognition loan balance?
  • What’s the difference?
  • How much loan interest?
  • What’s the big takeaway here?
  • Why would this policy become a modified endowment contract (MEC)?
  • How about another example?
  • What happened with the dividends?
  • What about the policy loan interest?
  • What are the takeaways?
  • Why do Bank on Yourself® type whole life insurance policy loans use non-direct recognition policy loans?

Would you like to avoid direct recognition loans and loss of dividends?

Is my policy a Bank on Yourself® type whole life insurance policy?

Agent

  • Is my agent captive or independent? (Can he/she work with multiple companies or just show me one company’s product line?)
  • Is my agent trained to confidently and competently answer all of my questions? (Am I having to educate him/her?)
  • What is the agent’s training and stability? How long will the advisor be around to help me?
  • Is my agent among the ~200 Bank on Yourself® Professionals in good standing with the Bank on Yourself® organization?

Insurance Company

  • Does the company offer whole life insurance? (Do I have Whole Life or a Universal Life, Variable Life, Indexed Universal Life or Term policy?)
  • Is the insurance company mutually owned or stock owned?
  • Is the insurer’s customer service department educated enough to help me with policy loans?
  • Does this company have a high Comdex Rating and solid financial strength? Will they have the stability to be in business for the next 100 years at least?

Tax considerations

  • Will this policy become a modified endowment contract (MEC)?
  • Will both principal and gains be accessible tax-free under current law?

Riders

  • Are paid-up additions (PUAs) offered through premiums or just through dividends?
  • What is the Insurance Company’s PUA load cost? How does it compare to other whole life products?
  • What are the PUA limits (and any other gotchas)? When and why must we reduce our PUAs, even if we don’t want to?
  • Were any other riders available to help accelerate my cash value growth, like term riders?
  • If I miss a premium payment, are there protections? What will happen to the policy?
  • Is there a Chronic Illness Rider or similar available? What are the fees for this rider?
  • What are the limits on Chronic Illness, Long Term Care and Accelerated Death Benefit riders?

Dividends

  • Does the insurer who issued my whole life insurance policy pay dividends?
  • Does the whole life product I purchased receive dividends?
  • Is the dividend based on company performance, with me participating as an owner, or is it merely “interest sensitive” based on industry performance?
  • Has the insurance company paid dividends at least 100 years straight?
  • Was there significant dividend variability over the last 12 years, suggesting risk to future cash value growth?

Loans

  • If I take a loan, how will it affect the policy, short-term and long-term?
  • Do I have non-direct recognition loans or direct recognition loans?
  • When will I pay policy loan interest (at the end of year or immediately)?
  • What limits are at work for policy loans? Is there a maximum amount per loan
  • What will they allow me to borrow out at a time?
  • What is my loan interest rate on this policy? Is it above or below the industry average?
  • Is the loan simple interest or compound interest?
  • At what time interval is the loan interest being accrued (annually, daily, etc.)?
Would you like a second set of eyes to review an existing policy, or would you like to discuss your specific situation? Reach out to meet with Mark or one of Mark’s associates.

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Episode 399: How to Pay for Everything in Life

April 25, 2025 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Would you like to join us live for the Bank on Yourself® Rescue Your Retirement Bootcamp on May 6th, 2025, 1PM-5PM ET?
  • What deals are you making?
  • What does it take to start a bank?
  • Where do banks keep their capital?
  • What is Tier 1 capital?
  • Who needs a liquid, regular parking spot for savings?
  • How does the money continue to grow, even while you’re using it?
  • What about major wealth transfers?
  • What are people saying?
  • Why work with us?

 



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Episode 380:[Client Spotlight] Mastering Real Estate and Bank On Yourself® with Brian Claus

December 13, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • How about balancing family life, ministry and real estate?
  • Who is Brian Claus?
  • Have you heard about UnBound Now?
  • What’s Brian’s earliest memory with money?
  • What did Brian’s Dad do to incentivize saving?
  • What’s Brian’s story?
  • What happened in 2018?
  • What are the benefits of running real estate through policies instead of banks?
  • What about Dave Ramsey’s thinking?
  • What about due diligence?
  • What about selling the house?
  • What was the benefit of putting the proceeds into a policy?
  • What about the down payment for the new house?
  • What about the pool?
  • What happened with the land deal?
  • What about the other deals?
  • How did Brian access the money?
  • Would you like to view Brian’s financial map?
  • How else does Brian use these policies?
  • What about paying taxes?
  • What about the ministry through Brian’s church?
  • Would you like to visit UnBound Now?
  • Would you like to email or message Brian on the FREE Not Your Average Financial Community?
  • What are the takeaways?

Brian Claus balances family life with a career in diverse real estate ventures, from long-term rentals to Airbnbs and land sales. For over a decade, he’s worked with Unbound Now, a dedicated anti-human trafficking organization, where he’s made a meaningful impact.

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Episode 374: [Client Spotlight] Bank On Yourself® and Austrian Economics with Max Brusky

November 1, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Can you imagine…?
  • What is Austrian Economics?
  • Who is Max Brusky?
  • What is Max’s podcast about?
  • Would you like to hear the BuckAround Podcast?
  • What happened to Max in downtown Chicago?
  • What happened at the Mises Circle event?
  • What is the relationship between Austrian Economics and Bank on Yourself?
  • Who is Ludwig von Mises?
  • What about Mises’ books, Theory of Money and Credit (1912) and Socialism (1920)?
  • What about sound money?
  • What is considered a store of value?
  • What about lending money?
  • What is the purpose of the central bank?
  • Is it a quasi-government agency?
  • Who appoints the central bank’s governors?
  • What is money? What is credit?
  • Who controls the money supply?
  • What leads to inflation?
  • What leads to improper business signals to investors and creditors?
  • What is a good interest rate?
  • Who sets the interest rate?
  • What is the Austrian Business cycle?
  • What is the boom / bust cycle?
  • What happens when the money is cheap and free?
  • What happens when bad decisions get subsidized by more money?
  • What does Mark have?
  • Do the Austrians have something to say about what’s going in our world right now?
  • Would you like to visit mises.org?
  • What about the Great Depression?
  • Would you like to read Murray Rothbard’s book on The Great Depression?
  • Who was Murray Rothbard?
  • What about human action?
  • Who are the Austrian economists?
  • What is the fix? Can anyone fix it?
  • What about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies?
  • What about the various agendas?
  • Do you remember the sidebar blogroll?
  • What about various Austrian economist podcasters?
  • What about Keynesian economics?
  • What about course corrections?
  • What did Thomas Jefferson say?
  • How was Max lucky?
  • Who is Robert Murphy?
  • Who is able to opt out of that system?
  • What is designed to keep you in debt?
  • What about debt, on the bank’s terms?
  • What happens when you use the cash value as collateral on a policy loan for big purchases in Bank on Yourself® type whole life insurance policies?
  • What is the great dispossession?
  • Who gets paid last?
  • How is an insurance company’s contract different?
  • What about the history of the contract?
  • What are the benefits of whole life insurance?
  • How does the death benefit make a big impact?
  • How has Max used his policies?
  • How about loaning money to kids for college?
  • What about having skin in the game?
  • What about the honor of paying back your debt?
  • What about paying tax?
  • What about donations?
  • How do the college loan repayments contribute to the kid’s inheritance?
  • What is a racket?
  • What are some creative ways to set up kids for success?
  • Would you like to visit mises.org?
  • Would you like to visit aier.org?
  • What are the takeaways?

Max Brusky is an attorney specializing in civil litigation, particularly insurance defense, coverage, and subrogation. He is currently an “in-house” and Claims Director for a national trucking company. He is a happy husband to a happy (and brilliant, and understanding) wife, and the proud father of two, one in college, one almost in college. He currently lives in Chicago’s far west suburbs, but still considers himself a Wisconsin expatriate.

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Episode 368: A Better Way to Profit First with Mike Michalowicz

September 20, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Have you ever wished you were just average?
  • Are you a business owner?
  • Why do some business owners thrive and others merely survive?
  • What if it were easy to become profitable?
  • Who is Mike Michalowicz?
  • What is the commercial that changed Mike’s life direction?
  • What happened when Mike was in overwhelming debt?
  • What is Parkinson’s law?
  • What about doing fewer things, better and faster than ever?
  • What about making the (scary) choice to take profit first?
  • What did Mike realize?
  • What about cost cutting?
  • What about growth?
  • How did Mike flip the (Sales-Expenses=Profits) formula to (Sales-Profit=Expenses)?
  • Would you like to hear Episode 165?
  • How might one implement Profit First?
  • What is a behavioral intercept?
  • How might we set up a system to drive the results we want?
  • What are the core elements?
  • What is the vault?
  • What about blending the Bank on Yourself® strategy and Profit First?
  • What are the pitfalls?
  • What about Occam’s razor?
  • What about leveraging your natural tendencies?
  • What are Mike’s four healthy habits?
  • Did you know that Brandon Neely and Amanda Neely are Certified Profit First Professionals?
  • What is a Certified Profit First Professional? Would you like to visit profitfirstprofessionals.com?
  • What about Mike’s latest book, All In?
  • What do your clients want more than anything else?
  • What are the takeaways?
  • Which one of these actions will you take this week?
Mike Michalowicz is an investor, active partner in multiple companies and a prolific author. His bestselling book, Profit First, has sold more than one million copies.

Mike is a former small business columnist for The Wall Street Journal, and he launched three multi-million dollar companies before his 35th birthday.

If you enjoyed reading Profit First, you may also enjoy his other books, including All In, The Pumpkin Plan, Clockwork, Fix This Next, Get Different, My Money Bunnies, Surge and The Toilet Paper Entrepreneur. 

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Episode 367: A Bank on Yourself® Manifesto with Dave Bonnemort

September 13, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Would you like to hear Part 1 with Dave Bonnemort?
  • What about mindset?
  • What about cash value life insurance?
  • What is the point of all of this?
  • What about building capital?
  • Can you do hard things?
  • What’s Dave’s experience with his policies?
  • What about thinking long range?
  • Do you want a million dollars today or a penny that doubles every day?
  • What about dividends?
  • What was Nelson Nash pounding the drum about?
  • When do you want your money to be most efficient?
  • How does the Bank on Yourself® or Infinite Banking strategy fit into the E.S.I. framework we talked about last week?
  • What about warehousing your wealth?
  • What about emergency funds?
  • What about starting a business and access to opportunity funds?
  • What about looking at the flow of money?
  • What about the Profit First book?
  • How does Dave pay his taxes?
  • How does Dave protect the family and the business?
  • What is the Augusta rule?
  • What about paying for college and beyond?
  • What about saving to drive the efficiency of the dollars?
  • What about real estate, crypto or starting a business?
  • Does the choice have to be either/or?
  • How is life insurance an “and asset”?
  • How do the tax dollars pay for the life insurance premium?
  • What did Dave learn from Nelson Nash?
  • What about insurance as an asset class?
  • How did Dave choose to work with Mark?
  • Do you build capital in an investment?
  • Who gets burned?
  • What about ruminating over all of the information, to really absorb and learn it?
  • What about being more strategic?
  • What about paying a simple interest rate back to the insurance company?
  • What about having capital for opportunities?
  • What about getting better terms for cash (vs. financing)?
  • What about the example of the two sisters: the life insurance sister vs. the C.D. sister?
  • Why are books so important and so much better than social media?
  • What will take time?
  • What is a 30 year journey and process?
  • Who understands how to handle lump sums?
  • Who is willing to hustle and grind?
  • What are the strategies you can employ when you can’t pay a premium?
  • What about thinking long term?
  • Would you like to hear Episode 95 and Episode 96?
  • How might life insurance figure into your overall situation?
  • How might it be a safety net as well as accessible capital?
  • How might patience lead to exponential growth over time?
  • What about talking with your family to teach financial concepts in a practical way?
  • Would you like to meet with Mark?

Dave Bonnemort is a current client and active practitioner of the Becoming Your Own Banker concept, as well as a husband to an amazing wife and father to three incredible kids.

He makes his living as a small business owner, is a student of Austrian economics, and a personal finance junkie.

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Episode 366: From Mowing Lawns to Mastering Money with Dave Bonnemort

September 6, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Does X mark the spot?
  • Who is Dave Bonnemort?
  • How did Dave get his start?
  • How many policies does Dave and his family own?
  • What is the E.S.I. framework?
  • What about earning?
  • What about saving?
  • What about interest?
  • What about banking?
  • Who is good at at least two of the three?
  • What about investing in yourself and your health?
  • What about education?
  • How might we bring value to others?
  • What have you done to help keep up with inflation?
  • What is the difference between saving and investing?
  • Is a 401(k) saving or investing?
  • What about the book Becoming Your Own Banker by Nelson Nash?
  • What about keeping your debts low?
  • What did Charlie Munger say?
  • What about Willie Sutton’s law?
  • What about the changing rules?
  • Have you looked at the history of taxes?
  • Where are the big payouts?
  • What about risk?
  • What about the likelihood of loss vs. the likelihood of winning?
  • What about volatility?
  • What about saving and building capital?
  • What about being broke as a joke?
  • How did Dave 10x some of his money?
  • Who knows better (what to do with your money)?
  • What about banking, rate and volume?
  • What are the two businesses?
  • How about patience and hard work?
  • What about the mindset?
  • What are the ugly, painful, grinding years?
  • What about the capitalization phase?
  • How is this like starting a tree farm?
  • What about the loan phase?
  • How much money do you bring in every month?
  • What dollar amount do you bring in as loans?
  • What if you were paying yourself back (for loans) and recapturing that interest instead?
  • Would you like to hear Part 2 with Dave next week?
  • What are the takeaways?
  • What about the need to have accessible, liquid capital?

Dave Bonnemort is a current client and active practitioner of the Becoming Your Own Banker concept, as well as a husband to an amazing wife and father to three incredible kids.

He makes his living as a small business owner, is a student of Austrian economics, and a personal finance junkie.

 

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Episode 365: Retirement Savings Sabotage! Why 90 Percent of IULs Fail… and What To Do

August 30, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Are we in a retirement crisis in this country?
  • How was that agent trained?
  • What is the problem with indexed universal life insurance (IUL)?
  • Have you read the book Becoming Your Own Banker by Nelson Nash?
  • Would you like to hear Episode 312?
  • Have you read Pamela Yellen’s book The Bank on Yourself Revolution?
  • What did the estate planning attorney say?
  • What was on the Comparing Life Insurance Solutions document (see readable image of document below)?
  • Have you been tricked?
  • What’s in the fine print?
  • What about withdrawals?
  • Can you put money back into an IUL after a withdrawal?
  • What is the main purpose of a life insurance company?
  • What about the investment portfolio?
  • What do insurers make on their overall portfolio?
  • What types of investments are in the insurer’s portfolio?
  • Who believes 7%?
  • What is mathematically impossible?
  • What rate of return is legally shown on the statements?
  • Is there such a thing as an average rate of return?
  • What will the insurers do with an IUL contract?
  • Do you remember the Fast and the Furious, etc.?
  • What happens if you take a loan from an IUL and the market crashes?
  • What is the feature?
  • What about the insurance expenses?
  • Why is that IUL cash value shrinking?
  • Why does the cost of insurance go up every single year in an IUL?
  • What about tax-free loans with an IUL?
  • What happened to the IUL writing agent?
  • How much are you taking out each year to supplement your retirement?
  • How many years are you getting 0 on your index?
  • Do you have income to pay down the IUL policy loans?
  • What adds to the pressure?
  • What happens to 88% of IUL policies?
  • How many IUL policies pay a death claim?
  • What if your IUL policy lapses with gains inside of the contract?
  • How long do you have to pay the taxes?
  • What is the over loan protection rider for those age 75+?
  • What about properly set up permanent dividend paying whole life insurance, from a mutual insurance company that offers non-direct recognition loans?
  • What is true?
  • What happens if you totally ignore the policy loan?
  • When does a policy risk lapsing?
  • What about flexibility?
  • How about a thought exercise, a tale of two contracts?
  • What happens when you’re in your in your eighties and can’t pay the higher premiums?
  • What are the guarantees in IUL?
  • What are the guarantees in whole life?
  • What is annual renewable term insurance (ART)?
  • What about costs?
  • What are the differences?
  • What are the limits of an IUL?
  • What is a reduce paid up policy (RPU)?
  • Can one RPU an IUL?
  • What about the strength of dividends?
  • What should this document say about whole life insurance?
  • What is the cost basis?
  • What about the rules for policy loans?
  • Why the ommissions on the IUL side?
  • What is a stalwart of several centuries of financial stability?
  • What is the big experiment of modern times?
  • What almost never pays a death benefit?
  • What about the gains being taxable?
  • What about the tax implications for beneficiaries of IUL policies?
  • What is the 1035 exchange?
  • Can one 1035 exchange from an IUL into a whole life policy?
  • Who’s in your corner to help you navigate and interpret all of this jargon?
  • Would you like to meet with Mark or one of Mark’s colleagues?

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Episode 350: The Art of Leveraging Insurance for Real Estate Success with Jay Helms

May 17, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • Can you imagine?
  • Would you like to hear another story from Jay Helms?
  • Would you like to hear Episode 243?
  • How did Jay break free from the rat race?
  • How did Jay leverage his Bank on Yourself® type whole life insurance policy’s cash value for real estate?
  • What was the annualized return?
  • What were the results?
  • What was the deal?
  • What was the loan amount?
  • What was the interest rate?
  • What happened six months later?
  • What’s a “me-loc” ?
  • What are the advantages?
  • What was the policy’s growth?
  • What is positive arbitrage?
  • Where else can you do this?
  • What about the risk?
  • What about first lien position as a safeguard?
  • What about coming out of the W-2 and going into the real estate world?
  • What did he say?
  • What did he not say?
  • What about liquid access to that money?
  • What about Jay’s mastermind group?
  • What about growth friends?
  • Would you like to join or login to the FREE Not Your Average Financial Community to access and participate in office hours?
  • How about a thought exercise?
  • Would you like to download this FREE  two column sheet with growth friends | maintenance relationships along the top?
  • What are 20 of the most recent, important connections from your device (text, zoom, phone)?
  • What is the crab bucket?
  • What happens when you take action?
  • Would you like to meet with Mark?
  • Would you like to meet with Jay?
  • When is the best time to plant a tree?
  • What does Jay say about starting a policy?
  • What are the takeaways?
  • How might you leverage your life insurance?
  • What could be a powerful cash management tool?
  • What about positive arbitrage?
  • What are you waiting for?
  • What about calculated risks?
  • What about the importance of real relationships?
  • How will you think differently about your money, your economy and your future?

Thought Exercise: Growth Friends and Maintenance Relationships (PDF)

Jay Helms, Founder of the W2 Capitalist, escaped the rat race after 6 years of side hustling in real estate investing. Jay has a goal to help one million people create multiple streams of income, achieve financial freedom, or build legacy wealth through real estate investing. Jay met his wife Cassie when they were contestants on a reality TV show and when their family of 5 are not traveling the country in their RV, Jay and Cassie reside in Gulf Breeze, FL, with their three kids, Rowland, Stella, and Ellen Anne. Knowing that closing on the first deal is the biggest hurdle and roadblock for new investors, he wrote a book, Make An Offer: Break Through Analysis Paralysis & Grab the Confidence You Need to Become a Real Estate Investor, to help them get over those mental hurdles. 

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Episode 349: The Heirs or The IRS?

May 10, 2024 by Not Your Average Financial Podcast

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In this episode, we ask:

  • What annual day did Americans just survive?
  • Where do you pay tax?
  • Who pays the most in lifetime taxes?
  • Who pays the least?
  • What about your heirs?
  • Do you want theirs or your heirs to get the money?
  • What is legally required?
  • Would you like to hear Episode 199?
  • What are the steps?
  • What about income tax?
  • What about assets that force an income?
  • What about assets you can borrow against?
  • What about collateral?
  • What about the tax to your heirs?
  • Is this only for the ultra-wealthy?
  • What are some ideas?
  • What happens when the laws change?
  • What about BITA?
  • What about taxing the rich?
  • How does this affect the middle class and less wealthy?
  • What about estate tax?
  • What about interest rates?
  • What about a mindset shift?
  • Are there capital gains on life insurance?
  • What are the problems?
  • What is guaranteed to grow?
  • What is not guaranteed to grow?
  • What happens if you find yourself underwater?
  • What about liquidity?
  • What about compounding?
  • What assets compound?
  • How about an example?
  • What about the power of compounding growth?
  • What are the opportunities?
  • Is everyone going to be able to save enough money?
  • What about saving a modest amount?
  • What are billionaires doing with their stocks and real estate?
  • What are the quick takeaways?
  • What are the strategies?
  • What about the risks with common strategies?
  • What about whole life insurance?
  • What about reducing your tax burden now?
  • What about a Bank on Yourself® type whole life insurance policy?
  • Would you like to visit notyouraverage.mn.co?

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