Podcast: Play in new window | Download
Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | RSS
In this episode, we ask:
- How might one cover the insane, rising cost of college without vaporizing retirement savings at the same time?
- Do you have someone in your life going to college or planning to go to college?
- Have you heard Episode 143?
- Who is Marty Smith?
- What about a story?
- Do you like numbers?
- What about a case study?
Please Book a Meeting with us or another Bank On Yourself® Professional to run the numbers specific to your situation.
Join at notyouraverage.mn.co
Marty Smith is Regional Vice President of Security Mutual Life Insurance Company of New York.
He loves the Infinite Banking and Bank on Yourself Concepts, Circle of Wealth, and Wealth & Wisdom.
He believes that “dividend-paying, cash-value whole life insurance” is the greatest financial product that’s ever been created.


Jack Gerstner lives in Elmhurst, IL with his beautiful wife Lauren and their daughter Mia. They have a baby boy due in November 2021. Jack is an Illinois native and has lived here his entire life. He is a Transportation and Logistics professional and an Officer in the Navy Reserve. When he’s not spending time with his family or working, Jack enjoys running, reading, and learning about finance. Jack started his Bank on Yourself journey in June 2014 with Lake Growth Financial and now has multiple policies on him and his family.
Chris Thurman is the co-owner of Thompson & Thurman in Amarillo TX and one of only 200 Bank on Yourself




Stephen Devlin co-founded two of Canada’s leading companies in creating safe and secure wealth-building systems for personal use and business, taking advantage of an underutilized strategy with whole life policies. With offices across Canada and as President and Chief Financial Officer with 