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In this episode, we ask:
- What is the most important business in the world?
- Who is in the banking business?
- Who is Marty Smith?
- What about a Marty Smith trilogy?
- Where has Marty and his wife been living for 46 years?
- How long has Security Mutual of New York been in business?
- What are the flagship products for Security Mutual Life Insurance Company (SML)?
- What about Nelson Nash?
- What about the death benefit?
- What about building cash value?
- What is a wonderful combination?
- What is the biggest hurdle?
- What about education?
- How many days since the last paradigm shift?
- What is the infinite banking concept?
- What about the book, Becoming Your Own Banker by Nelson Nash?
- Who was Nelson Nash?
- What about Austrian Economics?
- What about forestry?
- How far into the future do you think?
- What about real estate investing?
- What about being a pilot?
- How does money actually work?
- How do you think?
What are the top ten keys?
1. What is the most important business in the world?
- Banking
2. What is banking?
- Where some one or organization controls a pool of money
3. What about the one pool of money?
- It applies to everyone
4. What about the reality of financing everything you buy?
- You either pay interest to someone
- Or you give up interest you could have earned by paying cash
5. What about the alternate use of money?
- Opportunity Cost
6. What is the real problem?
- Paying roughly a third of income on interest, fees and charges
7. What about the need for finance?
- Probably greater than the need for life insurance protection
8. What about better control over principal and interest for big ticket items?
- Cars you own,
- major appliances,
- education,
- housing,
- down payment on a house,
- investment opportunities,
- business equipment and inventory
9. What about creating a system of finance?
- Using dividend paying cash value whole life insurance
- (NOT Universal Life (UL), NOT Variable Life (VL), NOT Indexed Universal Life (IUL))
10. What about a major paradigm shift? Do you understand how money works?
- It requires a major paradigm shift
- A personal wealth building strategy
- What about the book Debt: The First 5000 Years by David Graeber?
- Who do you want to be in control?
- Would you like to hear a story?
- Is banking a problem?
- What is the solution to the problem?
- What would change?
- What about increased freedom and joy?
- What about being financially independent?
- What about a personal wealth building strategy that actually works?
Marty Smith is the Regional Vice President of Security Mutual Life Insurance Company of New York. He loves Infinite Banking and Bank on Yourself Concepts, Circle of Wealth, and Wealth & Wisdom. He believes that “dividend-paying, cash-value whole life insurance” is the greatest financial product that’s ever been created.

Brandon Neely is a serial entrepreneur, Profit First and Bank On Yourself Professional, and the co-host of Wealth Wisdom Financial Podcast with his wife and business partner Amanda. He and Amanda founded and managed Overflow Coffee Bar, L3C from 2008 through 2018. They learned a lot of what to do and NOT to do through that experience. They have since sold that business. Now, as financial allies, they share their experiential knowledge through podcasting and developing personalized financial strategies for individuals and profitability strategies for businesses. They continue to help clients implement the Profit First system as well as how to use a Bank On Yourself framework to grow their businesses and future. Connect with Brandon at Wealth Wisdom Financial via the
Dan Proskauer is Vice President of Engineering United Health Group’s Optum unit and has spent nearly 30 years as a professional in the Semiconductor and Health Care industries.
Angie Grimm is the Lead College Funding Professional at College Solutions LLC in Amarillo TX. She is a financial professional specializing in solving the late-stage college planning problem for families.
Thomas is a father of two girls and married to his wife Amanda. They live in Chicago and are proud Cubs fans! Thomas is a great friend of over 10 years. We have gone on long runs together and have worked on big projects in various arenas of service, church, and more. I’ve got to see Thomas working at his best, being a great listener and a servant leader. He works as an IT analyst in a law firm In downtown Chicago.
Christian Ward is a seeker, writer, podcaster who happens to do real estate to make a living. 
Andy Schoonover is the founder and CEO of CrowdHealth, a community-powered alternative to health insurance that provides a revolutionary way of paying for healthcare bills through crowdfunding.