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In this episode, we ask:
- Would you like to hear the epic rap battle of insurance policies?
- Would you like to experience this lyrical throw down of the ages?
- Has Mark finally lost it?!
- Did whole life’s guaranteed cash value reign supreme or did IUL’s (indexed universal life insurance) market-linked potential steal the show?
- Who is Chris Gray?
- Who is Marvin Bulas?
- What’s this rap battle about?
- Is whole life insurance steady as a rock?
- Is whole life “the king of finance”?
- What about guarantees?
- What about dividends?
- What about the indexes in IUL policies?
- What about the IUL illustrations vs. IUL reality?
- What about fixed indexed annuities?
- What is just junk?
- What happens to IULs in the later years?
- What about the overpromising on this product?
- What about the IUL lawsuits?
- What about the new regulations?
- What is a straight-line projection?
- Is whole life inflexible?
- What about the flexibility that riders bring?
- Have you seen an IUL illustration?!
- What about the IUL fine print?
- What about the cost of IUL being cheaper in the early years of the policy?
- What happens to IULs with age?
- What about liar, liar, pants on fire?
- What about the wake up call?
- Are you safe from loss with an IUL?
- Why do the IULs go south?
- What about fees?
- What about the cost of insurance increasing in an IUL?
- Can you draw an income later in life?
- Do the guarantees eat your cash in an IUL?
- What about the zero-floor guarantee?
- What about the time-locked surrender charges on an IUL?
- What about loans in an IUL?
- What about non-direct recognition loans?
- What about increasing costs?
- Did that other advisor tell you…?
- What about tax and modified endowment contracts?
- What if you have a material change in an IUL?
- What about policy lapse?
- Which life insurance policy is going to come through?
- Why is there so much sizzle with IUL?
- Why is the predictability of IUL performance like a monkey throwing darts?
- Why are there so many pages of fine print on the IUL contract?
- Would you like to reach out to Chris or Marvin?
- What are the options for IUL holders?
- What is possible?

Chris Gray, ChrisG@Grossmancollegefunding.com,
Marvin Bulas, marvin@mysetsolutions.com,
David Richter is an active real estate investor who has been essential in closing over 850 deals
Mike Michalowicz is an investor, active partner in multiple companies and a prolific author. His bestselling book, Profit First, has sold more than one million copies.
Dave Bonnemort is a current client and active practitioner of the Becoming Your Own Banker concept, as well as a husband to an amazing wife and father to three incredible kids.



Amanda Neely, CFP® is a Certified Financial Professional® and Bank on Yourself® Professional, who uses her years of experience in business growth to develop personalized financial strategies for individuals, couples, and entrepreneurs. She works with people to find their unique path to financial freedom. Reach out to Amanda at 